A Hypothetical Performance Question

debbie20 · Forum Spice Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 1218

Oh my,my spelling is awful today.Must be cause I just got out of bed.Did Derren actually do that in his last tour?The nightmare thing.

SpasmTheCat · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:19 pm Post subject:

*takes vodka with thanks!*

No, he's never done that. The closest he's come, I suppose, is the *gulp* zombie thing...
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TC · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:23 pm Post subject:

But the z***** thing didn't have the deja vu element which the nightmare idea would, and I think that would be such fun. (To watch at least).

Twisted Evil

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Absinthegal · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:23 pm Post subject:

SpasmTheCat · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:34 pm Post subject:

debbie20 · Forum Spice Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 1218

So was I..It was a load of shite though.Not one decent looking guy in the whole place.They all looked 17 aswell.Then this weird drunk started chatting me up after.Then the taxi man started asking me why I didn't have a b/friend?The music was good up until about 1 when they started playing a load of old christmas crap.Plus there was no bank link near the club so I couldn't get money out to buy booze and with the little bit of money I did have I couldn't even get near the bar.The place was absolutely jam packed.Not a great night. Confused

Absinthegal · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:43 pm Post subject:

debbie20 · Forum Spice Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 1218

Abs we are derailing the thread.
Say something about the nightmare thing.I'm all out.

TC · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:47 pm Post subject:

SpasmTheCat · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:55 pm Post subject:

That'd be good - perhaps some unusual objects? Ornate jars, strange picture frames with unusual pictures in, that kind of thing? Something you'd definitely remember...
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TC · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:07 pm Post subject:

How about certain phrases that were repeated. Odd Twin Peaks type nonsense maybe... something bizarre.
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SpasmTheCat · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:15 pm Post subject:

Ooh yes. 'The walls outside my house are not four feet high'.

*chuckle*
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janus · Resident Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 758

you could have lots of fun with nightmare scenarios (not that I would ever condone such behaviour Wink

) let me see....

you could create a nigthmare scenario (under hypno-trance) set in a seemingly innocent and neutral place...e.g. local cafe....you simply set the scene.........

when your victim has sat down to order in his/her local cafe...the lights start to go dim....then a freakish waitress comes out...(the Zombie thing is overdone now.........so lets say you go with the vampire scenario) a couple more scary looking individuals arrive and order....all looking pale and drawn, black lifeless eyes.....some quite fearsome....big teeth etc....then a friend of the victim arrives and is set upon by a couple of the vampires and left for dead....

Victim wakes up away from cafe and nightmare scenario...and remembers nothing until the next time he/she goes to the cafe. The the vampire waitress appears (only this time as a normal waitress)....as do the other "vampires" one by one...only obviously dressed differently and with different friends...and the icing on the cake is the arrival of the victim's friend who not only seems very lively but also acknowledges one of the vampires directly.....

he he

(I enjoyed that way too much Shocked

)

well I think it would be a fun idea....but unfortunately it's copyright (c) now so no using that one for your torture manual TC Wink

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SpasmTheCat · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 4:55 pm Post subject:

Heh heh, that's evil!

So you mean, let the victim go to sleep, and then wake him up and transport him to the café, then take him back to bed afterwards, so he wakes up thinking it was all a dream? And then goes into the real café later on? *rubs hands together in glee*

That would be dead cool!
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janus · Resident Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 758

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There's a horror film called 'Let's Scare Jessica to Death', where the titular character's 'friends' decide to pretend there are vampires attacking people. I've never seen it, but remember reading about it in my cousin's horror film books years ago.

Not directly on point, but thought I'd chime in.
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TC · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:16 pm Post subject:

Janus, for a cuddly teddy you are fabulously evil!

That would be cool. Can I not include it in the manual if I name it after you? No. 237 - 'The Janus Vampire Dream Manoeuvre'.
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TC · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:19 pm Post subject:

Am I the only one that may now be slightly on edge the next time I go for a coffee in my favourite cafe?
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SpasmTheCat · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:24 pm Post subject:

TC · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:32 pm Post subject:

SpasmTheCat · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject:

Hurrah!

-gets scribbling-
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janus · Resident Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 758

SpasmTheCat · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:19 pm Post subject:

I'm honoured to be part of the universal mind!

I've been having a think, and I bet it would be good to create a dreamscape that includes a series of visual and auditory stimuli that lead up to something catastrophic, for example:

The victim goes to sleep in a regular bed in a regular room. Then you wake him up and walk him through a dream you've engineered that starts with something simple yet odd, like seeing a fish in a cage. Then perhaps the appearance of a man who asks an unusual question, like 'Is this the way to Amarillo?' (easy to recall!). After that, maybe a brief news report on the radio about a Satanic cult that have managed to get hold of a nuclear weapon. Next, a lady getting her handbag stolen right in front of the victim. Then a man putting out a fire and accusing the victim of starting it. After that, a TV report saying that the Satanic cult are going to use the weapon, and then something else unusual, like an upside-down Christmas tree and a friend who tells him it's normal. Finally, a news report that says that the Satanists have launched the weapon at the UK and it will land near to where the victim is - complete with the four-minute warning, sirens, stress, panicking friend etc. At the time when the bomb is due to land, you put the victim into a trance and take him back to bed, where he sleeps until morning. Each incident should cause more and more anxiety, except for the Christmas tree which is designed to make the victim relax a little (as it's silly) in order that the last event has that much more of an impact.

The next day, the man gets up, thinking 'shit, what an awful nightmare' and then encounters a fish in a cage. Followed by a man who asks him if this is the way to Amarillo....

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phoenixz · Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:00 pm Post subject: a muse ing

can i be the muse?
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You guys need to watch some of the old 'Mission: Impossible' TV series. They used to do this sort of thing all the time. Knock people out, then put them into a situation where everything was being manipulated.

Dor example, there was one where they made an old gangster (played by William Shatner) think he was young again and put him in a replica of a situation he'd been in forty years earlier. He went through the same actions as before and, once they'd seen where he hid the 'body', they knew where he'd concealed the actual murder victim all those years before and had the evidence to convict him.

Another featured Vic Morrow, who was aged and made to think he was living in a bunker, following a nuclear war.

Admittedly, these are fictional, but the basis for the series (and for the current BBC show 'Hustle') was the long con games that were popular in the 20s and 30s.
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