FAQ   Search   Memberlist    www.derrenbrown.co.uk     Profile   You have no new messages   Log out [ papillion ]  A Hypothetical Performance Question Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  Next          www.derrenbrownforum.com Forum Index -> Performances View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message phoenixz On Her Fiery Plume Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 2424 Location: Atop her Enchanted Tree in S.Wales Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:29 pm    Post subject: no sky box for me actually i've never seen it either, i'm poor and live in wales SO.....death? _________________ Tis the Season of GOOD WILL So i'll be good if you will............ Derren is my Dealer........... Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1368 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:34 pm    Post subject: I think it would be funny (in a vaguely nasty way) to engineer a conversation between two people... then later convince one of them that the other had been dead for ages ... especially if you then got the two of them to meet again. _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top janus Resident Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 737 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: ghosts TC wrote: phoenixz wrote: don't you watch most haunted? I have 4 TV channels available tp watch. I rarely watch any of them. I feel deprived knowing I haven't seen it. *does a fake boo-hoo cry for TC* only 4 TV Channels and no Derek Opera....(and you doodle him so well!)....so a flavour if you will.... Man goes to spooky house/castle/pub type place....man brings giggly girl and cameraman....cameraman brings techno friends....man and giggly girl meet owner...owner tells them "Oooh no, don't go down up to the attic whatever you do, it's the most haunted part of the house" etc....man says "great! we'll start there then"...everybody follows man to attic...rooms goes cold...man starts talking to wall...wall tells him lots of useful stuff, like where the owner's missing harmonica is etc etc....everybody is happily spooked...owner leaves home........THE END or something like that........ now David Blame on the other hand............he he _________________ "Scientia est potentia !" Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1368 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: ghosts janus wrote: TC wrote: phoenixz wrote: don't you watch most haunted? I have 4 TV channels available tp watch. I rarely watch any of them. I feel deprived knowing I haven't seen it. *does a fake boo-hoo cry for TC* only 4 TV Channels and no Derek Opera....(and you doodle him so well!)....so a flavour if you will.... Man goes to spooky house/castle/pub type place....man brings giggly girl and cameraman....cameraman brings techno friends....man and giggly girl meet owner...owner tells them "Oooh no, don't go down up to the attic whatever you do, it's the most haunted part of the house" etc....man says "great! we'll start there then"...everybody follows man to attic...rooms goes cold...man starts talking to wall...wall tells him lots of useful stuff, like where the owner's missing harmonica is etc etc....everybody is happily spooked...owner leaves home........THE END or something like that........ now David Blame on the other hand............he he I can cross the most haunted 'best of' dvd off my christmas list then! You actually make it sound a lot more entertaining than Derek Opera does in 'the psychic adventures of' (what a silly title for a book!). As for David Blame. He hides in a box. And won't speak to Eamonn Holmes. Is there really anything else to know? _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top janus Resident Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 737 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:38 pm    Post subject: Re: ghosts TC wrote: As for David Blame. He hides in a box. And won't speak to Eamonn Holmes. Is there really anything else to know? yeah, I think Derek may have channelled David by accident once, but I can't be certain _________________ "Scientia est potentia !" Back to top janus Resident Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 737 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 10:46 pm    Post subject: Here's a hypothetical performance question TC... what if Tippytoes were to skid on stage - engage in back-up slipped on stage ballet move but failed and landed on bum thus breaking hypno-trance of volunteer waiting patiently blindfolded on other side of stage? what then? _________________ "Scientia est potentia !" Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1368 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:19 pm    Post subject: janus wrote: Here's a hypothetical performance question TC... what if Tippytoes were to skid on stage - engage in back-up slipped on stage ballet move but failed and landed on bum thus breaking hypno-trance of volunteer waiting patiently blindfolded on other side of stage? what then? That is an interesting question Janus, and I would expect no less of you! My initial response would be thus: If the happy-hypno-trance is suddenly shattered as a result of a particularly dramatic fall I suspect this would result in severe mental scarring most readily apparant in a fear of the dark - and things that go bump in the night. Although you mention that the volunteer is both blindfolded and patient. This helps. Also they are on the other side of the stage. This means they wouldn't see the slip or the failed balletic recovery from the slip. To me this suggests that the hypno-trance is being perpetuated by tippytoes speaking to the volunteer, therefore if the goatee'd one remains composed enough to continue talking then the trance may be interrupted momentarily but not broken. And I'm sure it would take more that a slip, fall or broken limb to stop him talking. _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top janus Resident Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 737 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:35 pm    Post subject: TC wrote: janus wrote: Here's a hypothetical performance question TC... what if Tippytoes were to skid on stage - engage in back-up slipped on stage ballet move but failed and landed on bum thus breaking hypno-trance of volunteer waiting patiently blindfolded on other side of stage? what then? That is an interesting question Janus, and I would expect no less of you! My initial response would be thus: If the happy-hypno-trance is suddenly shattered as a result of a particularly dramatic fall I suspect this would result in severe mental scarring most readily apparant in a fear of the dark - and things that go bump in the night. Although you mention that the volunteer is both blindfolded and patient. This helps. Also they are on the other side of the stage. This means they wouldn't see the slip or the failed balletic recovery from the slip. To me this suggests that the hypno-trance is being perpetuated by tippytoes speaking to the volunteer, therefore if the goatee'd one remains composed enough to continue talking then the trance may be interrupted momentarily but not broken. And I'm sure it would take more that a slip, fall or broken limb to stop him talking. quite so TC, quite so..........However! if TT were to encounter a shortness of breath brought on by the ferocity of a rather slitherly and all too awkward fall, then this might result in a temporary loss of speech thus suspending the hypno-trance and plunging the hapless and temporarily sightless victim into a state of almost dizzying confusion, which would then require the immediate (or very soon after) interception by a stand-in TippyToed one, who would attempt to save the poor unfortunate volunteer from almost certain stagefright. and have you even considered the ramifications of having a stand-in TT on stage at the same time as Tippytoes himself and the possible state of flux this overload of Hypnosisis could bring about? _________________ "Scientia est potentia !" Back to top slickchickjen Tenant Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 464 Location: London Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:32 am    Post subject: Re: no sky box for me phoenixz wrote: actually i've never seen it either, i'm poor and live in wales SO.....death? or Mow Mow? JGC x _________________ 'Der Herrgott nimmt, Der Herrgott gibt - Doch gibt er nur dem den auch liebt? Bestrafe mich...' Back to top Absinthegal Forum Floozie Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 4207 Location: Disguised as a Christmas tree in Derrens flat. P.S. He has no idea so button it or I WILL kill you. Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:38 am    Post subject: I'd like to see Derren attempt to convince someone they were dead, it would be interesting to see if their pulse and heart rate actually slowed because of the suggestion he was concentrating on them. _________________ Derren's Fangirls: We give obsession a bad name. I am Made in Yorkshires biatch! Word! Cornish is my Nobacherie. Back to top debbie20 Forum Spice Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 1198 Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:30 pm    Post subject: Abs if they slow down that would indicate they are really relaxed, not the subconscious working to kill the body.I don't think the subconscious has the ability to slow down vital bodily processes such as the heart rate to contribute to the mental subconscious belief that you are dead.If it is physically impossible to hold your own breath long enough to kill,I know that is will and not subconscious belief,but still the body will not allow you to kill yourself in this way. Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1368 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:32 pm    Post subject: janus wrote: quite so TC, quite so..........However! if TT were to encounter a shortness of breath brought on by the ferocity of a rather slitherly and all too awkward fall, then this might result in a temporary loss of speech thus suspending the hypno-trance and plunging the hapless and temporarily sightless victim into a state of almost dizzying confusion, which would then require the immediate (or very soon after) interception by a stand-in TippyToed one, who would attempt to save the poor unfortunate volunteer from almost certain stagefright. and have you even considered the ramifications of having a stand-in TT on stage at the same time as Tippytoes himself and the possible state of flux this overload of Hypnosisis could bring about? TT and a stand in TT? Is that like Christ and Anti-Christ or Pope and Anti-Pope? I will confess I had never considered the results of having Derren and a Derren-a-like in the same place at the same time, I'm not sure quite what would happen but it's probably quantum. As a small mercy at least the volunteer is still blindfolded so wouldn't have to deal with the sight of TT and TT MkII sharing the same stage the effects of which could be enough to convince them they just died and are now inhabiting some very wierd hellish plane of existence. _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top janus Resident Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 737 Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: TC wrote: janus wrote: quite so TC, quite so..........However! if TT were to encounter a shortness of breath brought on by the ferocity of a rather slitherly and all too awkward fall, then this might result in a temporary loss of speech thus suspending the hypno-trance and plunging the hapless and temporarily sightless victim into a state of almost dizzying confusion, which would then require the immediate (or very soon after) interception by a stand-in TippyToed one, who would attempt to save the poor unfortunate volunteer from almost certain stagefright. and have you even considered the ramifications of having a stand-in TT on stage at the same time as Tippytoes himself and the possible state of flux this overload of Hypnosisis could bring about? TT and a stand in TT? Is that like Christ and Anti-Christ or Pope and Anti-Pope? I will confess I had never considered the results of having Derren and a Derren-a-like in the same place at the same time, I'm not sure quite what would happen but it's probably quantum. As a small mercy at least the volunteer is still blindfolded so wouldn't have to deal with the sight of TT and TT MkII sharing the same stage the effects of which could be enough to convince them they just died and are now inhabiting some very wierd hellish plane of existence. K so like we're talkin' doppelgangerism induced death illiusion, of sorts? yeh? so then, by this process, TippyT's could convince someone they were dead and in a kind of psychic purgatory, the result of which could would be both terrifying and strangely tingly as the same time, or space time even, with me? _________________ "Scientia est potentia !" Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1368 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:33 pm    Post subject: janus wrote: K so like we're talkin' doppelgangerism induced death illiusion, of sorts? yeh? so then, by this process, TippyT's could convince someone they were dead and in a kind of psychic purgatory, the result of which could would be both terrifying and strangely tingly as the same time, or space time even, with me? Of course I'm with you - and feeling strangely tingly at the same time. A very neat summary of the situation that I'm guessing would follow. Quite what entertainingly evil tricks could be played on the volunteer whilst they were in such a state I'll need to think about. _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top Absinthegal Forum Floozie Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 4207 Location: Disguised as a Christmas tree in Derrens flat. P.S. He has no idea so button it or I WILL kill you. Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:44 pm    Post subject: debbie20 wrote: Abs if they slow down that would indicate they are really relaxed, not the subconscious working to kill the body.I don't think the subconscious has the ability to slow down vital bodily processes such as the heart rate to contribute to the mental subconscious belief that you are dead.If it is physically impossible to hold your own breath long enough to kill,I know that is will and not subconscious belief,but still the body will not allow you to kill yourself in this way. Not if the pulse was slowed by a much greater amount than relaxation would indicate. He did something similar in the show earlier this year where his pulse was consistently taken until it had slowed by a considerable amount. _________________ Derren's Fangirls: We give obsession a bad name. I am Made in Yorkshires biatch! Word! Cornish is my Nobacherie. Back to top debbie20 Forum Spice Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 1198 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:35 pm    Post subject: Maybe he saw some forumites leaving. That is weird anyway.Although he could have been tricking the person who was taking his pulse.He's very good at that you know. Back to top Absinthegal Forum Floozie Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 4207 Location: Disguised as a Christmas tree in Derrens flat. P.S. He has no idea so button it or I WILL kill you. Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:36 pm    Post subject: debbie20 wrote: Maybe he saw some forumites leaving. That is weird anyway.Although he could have been tricking the person who was taking his pulse.He's very good at that you know. Good point, he'd just have to look at them and they'd believe anything. Goodness me, we had an intellectual debate....I feel quite dizzy now. _________________ Derren's Fangirls: We give obsession a bad name. I am Made in Yorkshires biatch! Word! Cornish is my Nobacherie. Last edited by Absinthegal on Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:53 pm; edited 1 time in total Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7386 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:46 pm    Post subject: Stopping your pulse is very, very easy to do, and if you're sitting close enough to the front (and know what you're looking for) you'll see how he did it. I'm still thinking about the 'Nightmare' trick. Talk about fun! Just imagine, someone goes to sleep, you wake them up and walk them through a nightmare that you've planned and engineered for them, then get them back to bed and back to sleep. They wake up thinking the whole thing was a proper nightmare, and you're totally off the hook! *snigger* _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top debbie20 Forum Spice Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 1198 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:47 pm    Post subject: *steadies Abs* That's quite enough data for you to absorb and process today young Abs,now return tp lusting after God, I mean Derren. Back to top Absinthegal Forum Floozie Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 4207 Location: Disguised as a Christmas tree in Derrens flat. P.S. He has no idea so button it or I WILL kill you. Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:51 pm    Post subject: SpasmTheCat wrote: Stopping your pulse is very, very easy to do, and if you're sitting close enough to the front (and know what you're looking for) you'll see how he did it. I'm still thinking about the 'Nightmare' trick. Talk about fun! Just imagine, someone goes to sleep, you wake them up and walk them through a nightmare that you've planned and engineered for them, then get them back to bed and back to sleep. They wake up thinking the whole thing was a proper nightmare, and you're totally off the hook! *snigger* I'll have to try that out with a few people, it's good in the way that you can get one over on them without their knowledge. Genius. _________________ Derren's Fangirls: We give obsession a bad name. I am Made in Yorkshires biatch! Word! Cornish is my Nobacherie. Back to top Absinthegal Forum Floozie Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 4207 Location: Disguised as a Christmas tree in Derrens flat. P.S. He has no idea so button it or I WILL kill you. Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:52 pm    Post subject: debbie20 wrote: *steadies Abs* That's quite enough data for you to absorb and process today young Abs,now return tp lusting after God, I mean Derren. Yeah, I fell a bit funny now. I posted on some big words there....God only knows where they sprang from. *goes to leer at Derren pics* _________________ Derren's Fangirls: We give obsession a bad name. I am Made in Yorkshires biatch! Word! Cornish is my Nobacherie. Back to top debbie20 Forum Spice Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 1198 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:57 pm    Post subject: It's that devious Mr Twain putting those big words in your head.Here take this naggin of vodka.*gives Abs glass*that will soon put you right.He's a nasty piece of work ,that Twain. Last edited by debbie20 on Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:10 pm; edited 1 time in total Back to top Absinthegal Forum Floozie Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 4207 Location: Disguised as a Christmas tree in Derrens flat. P.S. He has no idea so button it or I WILL kill you. Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:58 pm    Post subject: debbie20 wrote: It's that devious Mr Twain putting those big words in your head.Hear take this naggin of vodka.*gives Abs glass*that will soon put you right.He's a nasty piece of work ,that Twain. I'm dead intellectual really. *swigs vodka* _________________ Derren's Fangirls: We give obsession a bad name. I am Made in Yorkshires biatch! Word! Cornish is my Nobacherie. Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7386 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:01 pm    Post subject: Absinthegal wrote: I'll have to try that out with a few people, it's good in the way that you can get one over on them without their knowledge. Genius. *bows* And don't forget to create the déja vu the next day. Ooh, and if possible, wake three people up who don't know each other, and take them through the same 'dream' scenario together. Then the next morning, make sure they all see each other. It'd be dead creepy... _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top Absinthegal Forum Floozie Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 4207 Location: Disguised as a Christmas tree in Derrens flat. P.S. He has no idea so button it or I WILL kill you. Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:08 pm    Post subject: SpasmTheCat wrote: Absinthegal wrote: I'll have to try that out with a few people, it's good in the way that you can get one over on them without their knowledge. Genius. *bows* And don't forget to create the déja vu the next day. Ooh, and if possible, wake three people up who don't know each other, and take them through the same 'dream' scenario together. Then the next morning, make sure they all see each other. It'd be dead creepy... Thanks, Will do. *Hands Spasm some vodka* _________________ Derren's Fangirls: We give obsession a bad name. I am Made in Yorkshires biatch! Word! 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