FAQ   Search   Memberlist    www.derrenbrown.co.uk     Profile   You have no new messages   Log out [ papillion ]  A Hypothetical Performance Question Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next          www.derrenbrownforum.com Forum Index -> Performances View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7345 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:25 pm    Post subject: Eep. As long as you don't stick the vacuum cleaner nozzle in it! *tries to sample darkness with tongue while waiting for Phoenixz to finish thinking of an idea* Hmmm, I just had a thought. If you were going to manufacture a waking nightmare/dream for someone, wouldn't you have to plant some kind of trigger in order to get that person to go back to sleep again? It's doubtful that after you've just scared/worried/tried to eat them, they'd want to peacefully lie down in bed and go back to sleep, and if they don't go back to sleep, the whole effect won't work... What do you think? _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top phoenixz On Her Fiery Plume Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 2411 Location: Atop her Enchanted Tree in S.Wales Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject: good ideas come not so cheap SpasmTheCat wrote: Eep. As long as you don't stick the vacuum cleaner nozzle in it! *tries to sample darkness with tongue while waiting for Phoenixz to finish thinking of an idea* Hmmm, I just had a thought. If you were going to manufacture a waking nightmare/dream for someone, wouldn't you have to plant some kind of trigger in order to get that person to go back to sleep again? It's doubtful that after you've just scared/worried/tried to eat them, they'd want to peacefully lie down in bed and go to sleep... What do you think? Nope, i think it's pretty safe, it's in the back of the cupboard with the tin of soup thats out of date and the pickled eggs i once won in a raffle i'll try and think of something in the car on the way home, but not guarenteeing anything..... _________________ Tis the Season of GOOD WILL So i'll be good if you will............ Derren is my Dealer........... Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1354 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:03 pm    Post subject: Re: The Devil's Advocate phoenixz wrote: Ok, over the period of two days i have now referred to him as our king and the devil, at what point should i start to worry about this? I think you can safely make a start on that any time you like phoe _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7345 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:36 pm    Post subject: Maybe I should rename this thread 'TC, Phoenixz and Spas's Dark Suggestions'... _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1354 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:11 pm    Post subject: Seems like an apt name. Hubby just told me an anecdote that is often used in psychological-type circles after I mentioned what this thread was about... A man goes to visit a psychiatrist because he believes himself to be dead. The psychiatrist tries to make the man realise he's wrong. Psychiatrist: Do dead people bleed? Man: No. *The psychiatrist picks up a pin and pricks the man's finger - which then bleeds.* Man: Would you look at that, dead people do bleed! _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7345 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:15 pm    Post subject: Done! Like the anecdote, TC! Anyone feel like joining us? _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1354 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:18 pm    Post subject: Maybe I was wrong, perhaps it is possible to convince someone they are dead and any information to the contrary (like breathing) would simply prompt them to review what they understand being dead to be... rather than make them think 'I'm not really dead but I'll go along with it anyway because this balding mentalist has a cute little goatee'. _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top phoenixz On Her Fiery Plume Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 2411 Location: Atop her Enchanted Tree in S.Wales Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:24 pm    Post subject: Death Percieves Again, it depends on the individual's perception of Death surely? I percieve death to be pretty much like life only with more haunting of past nemesis and walking through walls..... Or burning in the everlasting pit of damnation or floating in a nighty on a cloud What about effects like the needle through the hand? No blood then, no pain but obveously the subject wasn't dead..... _________________ Tis the Season of GOOD WILL So i'll be good if you will............ Derren is my Dealer........... Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1354 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Death Percieves phoenixz wrote: What about effects like the needle through the hand? No blood then, no pain but obveously the subject wasn't dead..... That one's in the ninja book too. So is stroking a frogs belly... (but perhaps that's a subject best left well alone). Quote: Shishinjutsu involves the piercing of one's own flesh with a long needle and not bleeding or experiencing pain in the process. I re-pierced my ears after 7 years of not wearing earrings, do you think that counts? _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top phoenixz On Her Fiery Plume Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 2411 Location: Atop her Enchanted Tree in S.Wales Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:31 pm    Post subject: re-pierce Does this come down to your "pain is subjective" thing? _________________ Tis the Season of GOOD WILL So i'll be good if you will............ Derren is my Dealer........... Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1354 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: re-pierce phoenixz wrote: Does this come down to your "pain is subjective" thing? I can't take sole credit for that. The shishinpointyneedlejustsu is at least partly about that apparantly... Quote: Choose a place which the science of anatomy has proven as the location of the least number of nerves and veins. It doesn't mention wincing or making high-pitched squealing sounds (both of which I did when I did the earring thing. It does mention not trying this at home kids. _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top phoenixz On Her Fiery Plume Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 2411 Location: Atop her Enchanted Tree in S.Wales Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:46 pm    Post subject: Pain and glory and the frog stroking thing? Careful what you say here, it may be like porn to Carly's Toad..... What about making someone face their worst fears? I am picturing that scene from harry potter with the boggart.... Or making someone think thet are a vampire or only have three mins to live.... The Milton element of the new special will be interesting to watch after this conversation.... _________________ Tis the Season of GOOD WILL So i'll be good if you will............ Derren is my Dealer........... Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1354 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:55 pm    Post subject: The frog thing is about making a frog fall asleep by stroking it's belly. Also included is the ability to immobilise a snake by holding it with one hand and squeezing it with the other three times. I should point out that these are included as the sorts of carnival tricks that were often associated with people claiming to have mystical ninja powers and Hatsumi is giving an indication of the trickery involved rather than claiming that they are mystical ninja powers. One I think could be fun (although not really dark or morbid enough to be in this thread) is Quote: where a performer holding a six foot stick with his little finger pushes back an opponent who is pushing the other end of the staff with all his might. Simply by using psychological manipulation and secret ninja magic obviously.... _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1354 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:02 pm    Post subject: My mind has gone all ninja-fied now... in an effort to redeem myself with an idea that is darker than playing with big sticks, do you think it would be possible to convince someone that you (or someone else) was an evil nasty demon? It's kind of similar to some of the myths that ninja/shinobi used to encourage about themselves to keep people afraid of getting close to them. Would this work for DVB or are most people convinced he is the devil incarnate anyway? (The goatee is a dead givaway). _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top phoenixz On Her Fiery Plume Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 2411 Location: Atop her Enchanted Tree in S.Wales Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:47 pm    Post subject: all change hang on the title of the thread has changed again..... _________________ Tis the Season of GOOD WILL So i'll be good if you will............ Derren is my Dealer........... Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7345 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:00 pm    Post subject: I changed it back - I thought people might feel excluded if it just had our names in! _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top AnnaM Really Evil Person Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 2346 Location: Sweden Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:08 pm    Post subject: SpasmTheCat wrote: I changed it back - I thought people might feel excluded if it just had our names in! I was even pissed off and started to plot revenge _________________ There is always a method to my madness Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7345 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:22 pm    Post subject: Mwahahaha! Well, now instead you have to post some ideas for dark and dangerous things that DB could do! _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top AnnaM Really Evil Person Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 2346 Location: Sweden Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:30 pm    Post subject: I guess so.I can probably easly come up with something.You know that my imagination is pretty vivid.Right now I have been up for nights in a row really and it would just be odd things.I want him to try and read my mind.That is dark and dangerous _________________ There is always a method to my madness Back to top janus Resident Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 732 Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:55 pm    Post subject: TC wrote: Seems like an apt name. Hubby just told me an anecdote that is often used in psychological-type circles after I mentioned what this thread was about... A man goes to visit a psychiatrist because he believes himself to be dead. The psychiatrist tries to make the man realise he's wrong. Psychiatrist: Do dead people bleed? Man: No. *The psychiatrist picks up a pin and pricks the man's finger - which then bleeds.* Man: Would you look at that, dead people do bleed! are psychological-type circles the same a normal ones only more rounded? *does little Psychy dance* _________________ "Scientia est potentia !" Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7345 Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:09 am    Post subject: TC wrote: My mind has gone all ninja-fied now... in an effort to redeem myself with an idea that is darker than playing with big sticks, do you think it would be possible to convince someone that you (or someone else) was an evil nasty demon? Would this work for DVB or are most people convinced he is the devil incarnate anyway? (The goatee is a dead givaway). Interesting...would it be possible to manipulate someone's view of you merely by what you suggest to them? Would they suddenly think they were seeing a demon? Or would it be more plausible to plant the idea that you are a demon, but that nobody knows except your victim? _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1354 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:09 am    Post subject: janus wrote: TC wrote: Seems like an apt name. Hubby just told me an anecdote that is often used in psychological-type circles after I mentioned what this thread was about... A man goes to visit a psychiatrist because he believes himself to be dead. The psychiatrist tries to make the man realise he's wrong. Psychiatrist: Do dead people bleed? Man: No. *The psychiatrist picks up a pin and pricks the man's finger - which then bleeds.* Man: Would you look at that, dead people do bleed! are psychological-type circles the same a normal ones only more rounded? *does little Psychy dance* The circles are the same as normal ones, just with greater understanding of what it is to be circular. And an increased tendancy to be coloured in by inner-children. _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1354 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:49 pm    Post subject: I've had a thrilling day at work. I've been thinking about killing a collague or two (not seriously you understand, just in a general 'I can't believe she said that! I could so kill her!' sort of way). Anyway - death. We've chatted about convincing people that they are dead, or that they could kill people and predicting who they would kill... but how about convincing someone they've spoken with a dead person. Seance did that in the umm seance-y type way... but what if you staged a conversation between two people and then convince one of them afterwards that the person they were talking to had been dead for xx years? Like they'd seen and conversed with a ghost. Do you think you could convince someone that ghosts are real? _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top phoenixz On Her Fiery Plume Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 2411 Location: Atop her Enchanted Tree in S.Wales Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:22 pm    Post subject: ghosts ghosts are real..... don't you watch most haunted? _________________ Tis the Season of GOOD WILL So i'll be good if you will............ Derren is my Dealer........... Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1354 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:25 pm    Post subject: Re: ghosts phoenixz wrote: don't you watch most haunted? I have 4 TV channels available tp watch. I rarely watch any of them. 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