FAQ   Search   Memberlist    www.derrenbrown.co.uk     Profile   You have no new messages   Log out [ papillion ]  A Hypothetical Performance Question Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... , 10, 11, 12  Next          www.derrenbrownforum.com Forum Index -> Performances View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Thistoshallpass Tenant Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 454 Location: Southend-on-sea Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:49 pm    Post subject: slickchickjen wrote: Thistoshallpass wrote: phoenixz wrote: Quote: I'm not scared of death I’m not frightened of dying......its living that can sometimes scare the shit out of me. Know what you mean on that! Sorry to barge in. As you were... JGC x In the words of M. Scott Peck........Life is difficult _________________ Every time I close the door on reality, it comes in through the windows. Back to top slickchickjen Resident Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 507 Location: Clucking into my cider and black... Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:43 pm    Post subject: Sometimes, indeed it can be. JGC x _________________ 'Der Herrgott nimmt, Der Herrgott gibt - Doch gibt er nur dem den auch liebt? Bestrafe mich...' Back to top error265 Squatter Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 114 Location: Inside Your Mind Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 10:52 pm    Post subject: I told someone they are not human anymore.. that their memories are all part of a different life.. (the moment i said that - their head fell in their lap and their breathing was barely hearable.. i couldnt feel a pulse... but i believe they were alive.. so i acted quickly.. it looked to me like a dreamless sleep.. aka comatose... i'll be more careful with my words in the future....! _________________ http://www.Error265.co.nr or http://www.SuperHypnoDudes.tk Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1406 Location: In my own world - with a kitten Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 10:56 pm    Post subject: error265 wrote: I told someone they are not human anymore.. that their memories are all part of a different life.. (the moment i said that - their head fell in their lap and their breathing was barely hearable.. i couldnt feel a pulse... but i believe they were alive.. so i acted quickly.. it looked to me like a dreamless sleep.. aka comatose... i'll be more careful with my words in the future....! I'm sure you're not the first person who has been able to put people to sleep by talking to them. _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top AnnaM Really Evil Person Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 2400 Location: Sweden Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 11:11 pm    Post subject: error265 wrote: ... but i believe they were alive.. But you can't be too sure can you? _________________ There is always a method to my madness Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7572 Location: In the TARDIS, making tea. Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2005 11:19 pm    Post subject: Blimey, error, I hope you know what you're doing! _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top slickchickjen Resident Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 507 Location: Clucking into my cider and black... Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Error, listen to the cat. She is wise in the ways of the world. Be careful! JGC x _________________ 'Der Herrgott nimmt, Der Herrgott gibt - Doch gibt er nur dem den auch liebt? Bestrafe mich...' Back to top Squawker Tenant Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 364 Location: Brighton Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: A Hypothetical Performance Question SpasmTheCat wrote: This morbid little thought occurred to me today, and I wonder if it might make for an interesting discussion. Could Derren use his persuasive/manipulative skills to actually convince someone that they were dead? And what would happen? He'd have to use some kind of 'body double' so the person could see himself physically 'removed' from his body!!! Crikey! Just think what fun you could have with a load of holographic images, since the 'person' would have to believe he was a ghost and be able to walk through stuff!!!! All kinds of scenes from 'Ghost' are floating through my head - and that other very silly series on TV with the guy and his friend who's a ghost - Randall and Hopkirk ... But could he make someone believe they were dead? NO! But he could develop the whole scenario (as above, for instance) so said person was forced to come to that conclusion himself! Bit of a shock though, eh? You think? Dunno ... Great idea! Not a million steps away from the one where he made himself 'invisible' to that poor drama student!! Maybe you should suggest it ... _________________ Life should not be measured in the breaths you take, but rather in the things that take your breath away! Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7572 Location: In the TARDIS, making tea. Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:22 pm    Post subject: Heh, I like all the ghost-y stuff! I think I'd like to see him do the 'soul jars' one, where he tells the person that he's going to remove their soul and put it in an ornate jar. Then he takes the jar to some other location and has the person describe it. All a bit 'remote-view'-y! Or the nightmare one, but I have a feeling that that would take an awful lot of setting up and planning! It'd be damn cool though! Oh, the deja vu fun to be had! _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1406 Location: In my own world - with a kitten Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:46 pm    Post subject: I think the soul jar remote viewy thing could be fun, as well as putting the jar in peril or smashing it to smithereens... or how about doing that with more than one person and then swapping the souls/jars over. _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top Lolly Pertwhistle Forumite Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 4399 Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:05 pm    Post subject: Like Wife Swap? But internalised? And without wives? _________________ "Shit... Well, if this is going to be that sort of party then I'm gonna stick my dick in someone's potatoes." Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7572 Location: In the TARDIS, making tea. Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:42 pm    Post subject: Heh, interesting! If you tell someone you've accidentally given them the wrong soul, say one of someone with a split personality, or Derek Acorah, or something, would the person then start to act differently? _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top Elixa Browser Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 64 Location: Bedfordshire Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:47 pm    Post subject: That's vaguely similar to the poppet doll in Epping Forest isn't it? _________________ Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7572 Location: In the TARDIS, making tea. Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 8:48 pm    Post subject: Kind of, except for the remote viewing aspect, and the threat of smashing the jar to pieces! _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7572 Location: In the TARDIS, making tea. Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 11:12 am    Post subject: M'kay, I had a very strange dream last night, where a UFO was hanging over London and we were all compelled to go into it, even though we were terrified. So here's a question: Would it be possible to implant a suggestion that would compel someone to go somewhere, even if they knew it might mean their death? Or would survival instinct kick in and prevent them from going? _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top phoenixz On Her Fiery Plume Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 2535 Location: Atop her Enchanted Tree in S.Wales Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:21 pm    Post subject: survival SpasmTheCat wrote: M'kay, I had a very strange dream last night, where a UFO was hanging over London and we were all compelled to go into it, even though we were terrified. So here's a question: Would it be possible to implant a suggestion that would compel someone to go somewhere, even if they knew it might mean their death? Or would survival instinct kick in and prevent them from going? this is a bit last episode of Dr Who ish i've seen time delay'd suggestions before but i don't think you can make anyone do anything they don't want to and yes, i think survival instinct would prevent harm as surely this would override any suggestion survival instinct is one of the most basic qualitys we are hardwired too TC, is probably better qualified to Advise on this....or anyone who isn't me who knows nothing about hypnosis _________________ Tis the Season of GOOD WILL So i'll be good if you will............ Derren is my Dealer........... Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7572 Location: In the TARDIS, making tea. Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:03 pm    Post subject: Re: survival phoenixz wrote: this is a bit last episode of Dr Who ish Yeah! I thought that too! *looks to see if she's left any blood lying around* Quote: i've seen time delay'd suggestions before but i don't think you can make anyone do anything they don't want to and yes, i think survival instinct would prevent harm as surely this would override any suggestion survival instinct is one of the most basic qualitys we are hardwired too TC, is probably better qualified to Advise on this....or anyone who isn't me who knows nothing about hypnosis Yep, not so much hypnosis, but more an implanted suggestion. What if there was only a possibility of death? Would the survival instinct kick in then? Or would the force of the suggestion be too strong? _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1406 Location: In my own world - with a kitten Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:28 pm    Post subject: I don't think I'm qualified to advise but I'll add my tuppence-worth anyway. I don't think it would be possible to make someone do something that they knew would cause them significant harm - unless you convinced them that it wouldn't cause them harm. Like walking off a cliff - generally a no-no but if you really thought that you could fly maybe worth a go. Although that sort of altered reality I think is more likely to be brought about by drugs than hypnosis. Hypnosis or suggestion (if/however you want to differentiate between them) can suggest another way of thinking - but the person themselves will have a choice about adopting it or not. PS. A message from my little Nobacherie. I think it's kitten for 'hello'. a'~##6 _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Last edited by TC on Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:18 pm; edited 1 time in total Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7572 Location: In the TARDIS, making tea. Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:30 pm    Post subject: Awwww! How cute! _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top janus Resident Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Posts: 836 Location: In Your Dreams... Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject: TC wrote: I don't think I'm qualified to advise but I'll add my tuppence-worth anyway. I don't think it would be possible to make someone do something that they knew would cause them significant harm - unless you convinced them that it wouldn't cause them harm. Like walking off a cliff - generally a no-no but if you really thought that you could fly maybe worth a go. Although that sort of altered reality I think is more likely to be brought about by drugs than hypnosis. Hypnosis or suggestion (if/however you want to differentiate between them) can suggest another way of thinking - but the person themselves will have a choice about adopting it or not. PS. A message from my little Nobcherie. I think it's kitten for 'hello'. a'~##6 How is your little tiger Top Cat? Back to top Lolly Pertwhistle Forumite Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 4399 Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:40 pm    Post subject: You did not call your cat Nobacherie... _________________ "Shit... Well, if this is going to be that sort of party then I'm gonna stick my dick in someone's potatoes." Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1406 Location: In my own world - with a kitten Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:00 pm    Post subject: janus wrote: TC wrote: I don't think I'm qualified to advise but I'll add my tuppence-worth anyway. I don't think it would be possible to make someone do something that they knew would cause them significant harm - unless you convinced them that it wouldn't cause them harm. Like walking off a cliff - generally a no-no but if you really thought that you could fly maybe worth a go. Although that sort of altered reality I think is more likely to be brought about by drugs than hypnosis. Hypnosis or suggestion (if/however you want to differentiate between them) can suggest another way of thinking - but the person themselves will have a choice about adopting it or not. PS. A message from my little Nobacherie. I think it's kitten for 'hello'. a'~##6 How is your little tiger Top Cat? He discovered two new rooms today! We are trying a phased introduction to the other cat in the house. He is going to be a leopard when he grows up (well a Bengal cat, but it's much the same thing). He has been curled up asleep on my lap for most of the afternoon and is currently chasing a feather on a bit of string that hubby is moving round the room. He is a very acrobatic little kitty. Lolly, I don't think you're cut out for working as a Psychic - he is called Nobacherie (or Noba for short), it seemed appropriate given his pedigree name. Some people may not like it - but to be honest I don't care. _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7572 Location: In the TARDIS, making tea. Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:05 pm    Post subject: To quote the all knowledgeable Time Lord himself: "You can hypnotise someone to dance like a chicken, but you can't hypnotise someone to death. The survival instinct's too strong." Right, any more ideas? _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top Prudence Newbie Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 30 Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: I disagree on the "would someone do something even if it meant death?" idea. People do it all the time. Smoking springs to mind, but I suppose smokers convince themselves that it won't happen to them. We do loads of other risky things on a daily basis and just block out the possible dangers. Why do kids play on railway lines? Look at how many deaths there are on the road, and yet people still drive. Kebab shops do a roaring trade...! Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7572 Location: In the TARDIS, making tea. Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:51 pm    Post subject: *stubs out cigarette guiltily* Ooh, that's a good point. I'd guess that the only reason is that it's not imminent death, or instant death. And there's always a chance you'll survive, unlike what would happen if some beardy fellow convinced you to stick your fingers in a plug socket... _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         www.derrenbrownforum.com Forum Index -> Performances All times are GMT Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... , 10, 11, 12  Next Page 11 of 12 Watch this topic for replies   Jump to: Select a forum Derren Brown Forum----------------General ChatDerren ChatPerformancesAbout the forumThe Birdy's Beak  You can post new topics in this forum You can reply to topics in this forum You can edit your posts in this forum You can delete your posts in this forum You can vote in polls in this forum