FAQ   Search   Memberlist    www.derrenbrown.co.uk     Profile   You have no new messages   Log out [ papillion ]  A Hypothetical Performance Question Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... , 9, 10, 11  Next          www.derrenbrownforum.com Forum Index -> Performances View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7449 Location: In the TARDIS, making tea. Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:36 pm    Post subject: Coo, it sounds intriguing! I don't think I've ever watched 'Mission:Impossible'...*prepares for P-T's wrath* There's 'The Truman Show' as well, along those same lines... _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top phoenixz On Her Fiery Plume Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 2483 Location: Atop her Enchanted Tree in S.Wales Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:40 pm    Post subject: traumatic are we going for severe mental trauma? _________________ Tis the Season of GOOD WILL So i'll be good if you will............ Derren is my Dealer........... Back to top Poppet Settler Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 257 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:44 pm    Post subject: Answer: I know. Someone could be convinced that they were dead, but even the being convinced means that they are alive. They are not psychologically dead - because they are psychological believing : we are back to trapped in belief systems again. In short you can't 'hypnotise' someone into being dead, only into believing they are dead which is pointless. No I'm afraid if you want to pursue this avenue SpasmFink it's 1000 watts, 3 minutes, and a lot of resusitation by a lot of very frightened medics thinking prison food if they don't get it right. I don't know. But I think perhaps it would be a pointless exercise with most people because they would only recall (if anything at all) a richness that their minds would conjure for them. You would need someone who could seperate from mind and still exist. Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1380 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: traumatic phoenixz wrote: are we going for severe mental trauma? I think we're all headed that way. _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7449 Location: In the TARDIS, making tea. Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:47 pm    Post subject: Poppet wrote: No I'm afraid if you want to pursue this avenue SpasmFink it's 1000 watts, 3 minutes, and a lot of resusitation by a lot of very frightened medics thinking prison food if they don't get it right. *gets out defibrillator, grins evilly and raises enquiring eyebrow at Poppet* _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top Part-Timer Forumite Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 3507 Location: London Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:47 pm    Post subject: SpasmTheCat wrote: Coo, it sounds intriguing! I don't think I've ever watched 'Mission:Impossible'...*prepares for P-T's wrath* You're missing out. As with any series, some episodes are stronger than others. I haven't seen many from the later series, but I've seen most of the first three. My absolute favourite was 'The Mind of Stefan Miklos'. Which is too complicated to try and explain. In a 'short con', you can only take them for what money they have on them or, now, what they could get out of a cash machine. The idea for long con games was to make people go and liquidate assets. Anything from a few to dozens of con men would be involved, all playing parts. The mark was put into a sort of play, where every major person he'd interact with was in on the con. Everyone knew their part and the mark would end up almost being railroaded into a situation where he'd go and get a large sum of money and bring it back to the con artists. The film 'The Sting' was, if I recall correctly, also based on the same book that inspired 'Mission: Impossible', 'The Big Con'. It's an excellent read and it's quite staggering how much money the con men took (allowing for inflation). _________________ The best thing about being a cynic is that you are nearly always right. The worst thing is that you are nearly always right. Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7449 Location: In the TARDIS, making tea. Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:50 pm    Post subject: 'The Sting' is a fantastic film. Thoroughly enjoyed that! I shall have to have a look around to see if I can find some eps of Mission:Impossible because I'm all curious now. It sounds just like where I'm coming from with that dream thing... _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1380 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:51 pm    Post subject: SpasmTheCat wrote: Poppet wrote: No I'm afraid if you want to pursue this avenue SpasmFink it's 1000 watts, 3 minutes, and a lot of resusitation by a lot of very frightened medics thinking prison food if they don't get it right. *gets out defibrillator, grins evilly and raises enquiring eyebrow at Poppet* Am I the only one to think back to 'Flatliners' after reading that? Keifer Sutherland. _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top Part-Timer Forumite Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 3507 Location: London Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:51 pm    Post subject: I have a vague feeling that there was an episode where they made someone think he was dreaming, then put him into situations that matched the dream. There was something like that in 'The Avengers', but the idea there was to make people die of fright, as I recall. Possibly not quite what you are after here! _________________ The best thing about being a cynic is that you are nearly always right. The worst thing is that you are nearly always right. Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7449 Location: In the TARDIS, making tea. Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:52 pm    Post subject: A tad drastic, I fear! Although deep, building fear is what I was aiming for in my last suggestion... _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top Poppet Settler Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 257 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:58 pm    Post subject: SpasmTheCat wrote: Poppet wrote: No I'm afraid if you want to pursue this avenue SpasmFink it's 1000 watts, 3 minutes, and a lot of resusitation by a lot of very frightened medics thinking prison food if they don't get it right. *gets out defibrillator, grins evilly and raises enquiring eyebrow at Poppet* Make no mistake young Spasm, Kiefer Sutherland would look like a faerie. I'd love to do it. I've had a glimpse and I think I could do it - bring something so substantial back from the otherside that no-one could doubt survival (of some aspect) after death. Still it is Christmas. Perhaps too heavy for the prevailing season I do become. Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7449 Location: In the TARDIS, making tea. Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:00 pm    Post subject: That reminds me of a Dean Koontz book, although I can't remember the title. Two characters had near-death experiences; one brought an agel back with him, and one a demon... _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top phoenixz On Her Fiery Plume Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 2483 Location: Atop her Enchanted Tree in S.Wales Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:01 pm    Post subject: death and dying I'm not scared of death i'm scared of the process of dying something along those lines? _________________ Tis the Season of GOOD WILL So i'll be good if you will............ Derren is my Dealer........... Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7449 Location: In the TARDIS, making tea. Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: death and dying phoenixz wrote: I'm not scared of death i'm scared of the process of dying something along those lines? Yes, now you see that would make my previous suggestion all the more effective if my victim held the same philosophy! Imagine how he would feel by the time he got to the fire incident the next day? Deep psychological scarring. What fun! _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1380 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:09 pm    Post subject: Re: death and dying phoenixz wrote: I'm not scared of death Woody Allen wrote: There are worse things in life than death. Have you ever spent an evening with an inusrance salesman?" _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top phoenixz On Her Fiery Plume Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 2483 Location: Atop her Enchanted Tree in S.Wales Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: death and dying TC wrote: phoenixz wrote: I'm not scared of death Woody Allen wrote: There are worse things in life than death. Have you ever spent an evening with an inusrance salesman?" no, but just the thought of it deeply disturbs me _________________ Tis the Season of GOOD WILL So i'll be good if you will............ Derren is my Dealer........... Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7449 Location: In the TARDIS, making tea. Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:12 pm    Post subject: ...which is perfect for what I'm planning. Come this way, Miss Phoenixz... Mwahahahahahahahaaaaa. _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top TC Forumite Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 1380 Location: In my own world - it's okay they know me here Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:14 pm    Post subject: For our next trick we could try convincing someone they are an insurance salesman. Or would that be just too cruel? _________________ There's malice and there's magic in every season - (Elvis Costello) Back to top phoenixz On Her Fiery Plume Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 2483 Location: Atop her Enchanted Tree in S.Wales Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:16 pm    Post subject: eep TC wrote: For our next trick we could try convincing someone they are an insurance salesman. Or would that be just too cruel? we've just found the way to put someone to sleep..... emotional trauma, psycological scarring, it's all good spasm has THAT look in her eyes, TC i'm scared _________________ Tis the Season of GOOD WILL So i'll be good if you will............ Derren is my Dealer........... Back to top Poppet Settler Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 257 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:16 pm    Post subject: Re: death and dying SpasmTheCat wrote: Deep psychological scarring. What fun! Don't joke young Spasm. Derren isn't lying when he says he can drive you mad, mind is very subtle. He's not the only one either - they're everyway. You wouldn't like to get trapped in madness Spasm, that place where your thoughts spin around with an ungraspable velocity obscuring your external reality. Where peoples' eyes flick up/down, on/off , alive/dead with stammered speed. People become little more than gross lumps of flesh and insipid devilish grins come at you out of the darkness. A place where you are totally alone, where no-one can help you Spasm - where the only thing you can do is scream and try to remember where your head is so that you can attempt to crush, splat and destroy it against the nearest wall. This is madness, this is why one must hope that someone somewhere is keeping a close eye on this new fixation with psychological manipulation. Of course it doesn't bother me much, been there - done that. I just change centre and watch my thoughts do their thing. Heck, I might even stand behind your shoulder and marvel alongside you at how crazy I really am. PS: Mental illness is not funny. Not well understood. You should never joke about it. Back to top SpasmTheCat Resident Stuffed Feline Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 7449 Location: In the TARDIS, making tea. Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:23 pm    Post subject: *scratches ear to try and get Poppet out of her head* _________________ "The more times the man himself lies, the more times he will come back to life having his own forum" ~ AnnaM on Karma Back to top Poppet Settler Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 257 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:31 pm    Post subject: SpasmTheCat wrote: *scratches ear to try and get Poppet out of her head* Sorry! Back to top Thistoshallpass Tenant Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 450 Location: Southend-on-sea Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:35 pm    Post subject: phoenixz wrote: Quote: I'm not scared of death I’m not frightened of dying......its living that can sometimes scare the shit out of me. _________________ Every time I close the door on reality, it comes in through the windows. Back to top Poppet Settler Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 257 Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 11:47 pm    Post subject: Thistoshallpass wrote: phoenixz wrote: Quote: I'm not scared of death I’m not frightened of dying......its living that can sometimes scare the shit out of me. That's cos you haven't met 'LIFE' yet. Just 'mad mind's' definition of it. Back to top slickchickjen Resident Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 500 Location: Clucking into my cider and black... Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:47 pm    Post subject: Thistoshallpass wrote: phoenixz wrote: Quote: I'm not scared of death I’m not frightened of dying......its living that can sometimes scare the shit out of me. Know what you mean on that! Sorry to barge in. As you were... JGC x _________________ 'Der Herrgott nimmt, Der Herrgott gibt - Doch gibt er nur dem den auch liebt? Bestrafe mich...' 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