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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm! It's possible - if only we could work out the other clues...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have read a complete history on Victoria Station, I have read up on the beckham thing.

I now know about Macmillan publishing.

visas for America.

The word Malaga, the places Malaga.

I Officially hates coops the Big stooopid Nobacherie!

I am not going to the tour, I am going to return the tickets and complain, get my money back and book myself into the priory for a while.

Somebody mail me when it is solved.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

P'raps the Carbon clue relates to the fact that they burn the baguettes a lot!

Oh, and the fish and chips one relates to the snack-food-y aspect (although quite where Llanfairdoodlywhatsit comes into it, who knows...)

And the Peter Piper one replaces the words 'Pickled Peppers'...more snack-y items?

Shame there's not an eaterie there called 'Welsh Affair'!
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Carbon in its purest form.


Just found this:

CharcoCaps, Activated Charcoal Dietary Supplement provides 260mg per capsule. Activated Charcoal USP has been produced to medical standards and is the purest form of carbon, the building-block element of the body, available today. Activated Charcoal has also been used for centuries as a natural remedy for intestinal distress. A natural internal detoxifier commonly used to help cleanse the body of unwanted materials. Imbalance of these toxins or other substances can lead to putrificaion and gas or excess flatus. CharcoCaps® Activated Charcoal can adsorb or bind-up great quantities of these substances and carry them out of the body.

Just a thought Think Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhhh, eat lots of junk food, and you will have 'intestinal distress'!

'Enrolment at a later stage would certainly mean an imminent sacrifice' could be a reference to Weight Watchers or a diet club. If you enrol there at a later stage i.e. tubby, then you'll have to make an imminent sacrifice of the junk food in order to lose weight? Hmm, this could also refer to the Victoria Beckham theory...

There are little chocolates called 'Baci' - pronounced Bachi 'cause they're Italian, like. Perhaps Mr. Coops is addicted to them...

Or am I guilty of trying to fit the clues to match the answers?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpasmTheCat wrote:
There are little chocolates called 'Baci' - pronounced Bachi 'cause they're Italian, like. Perhaps Mr. Coops is addicted to them...


Baci means kiss, the chocolates have little love notes inside them...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly!

Maybe it's Derren who likes them too much, and it's Coops' job to keep him off them, so that he doesn't have to go to a diet club.

Love it!!


Maybe, then, it's No Belly-Acherie.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the 'imminent sacrifice' clue, I was wondering whether it has something to do with 'lent'... perhaps as part of a longer word? Or is Coops a loan shark?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Malaga isn't where you think it is'

Elsewhere? (El for the Spanish bit?)

St.Elsewhere was a medical drama - handy for a belly-ache... but then 'no belly-acherie' could also mean that he does his job without complaining...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, guys, we're a step away from having him selling wares in the local market. I'm SURE Derren must pay him something!!!!!???

I think he's just in charge of pouring the wine/bubbly ...

By the way, 'baguettes' is also French for chopsticks! Getting clearer by the minute! Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have we been down the publicity/advertising route?

What about the copyright route?

Or the patenting route? For that marvellous dreamcatching box!!

Or maybe ... maybe ... Coops lovingly sewed that white fluffy pillow (made out of rabbit) ...

Is he in charge of props? (that'd take in Victoria Station - as a property!!!)

Oh dear, oh dear ...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We should get him fired.

R-r-r-revenge!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or he's in charge of taking note of the names of all those people involved in Messiah - not one of whom had a pronounceable name!!!

Or was he responsible for the pseudonyms for Derren for Messiah?


And all the lies, deceipt, conniving, cheating (all in the name of entertainment, of course) ..... and explaining the 'purpose' of these for, undoubtedly, the common good?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I just point something out guys? Nobacherie was certainly used on "Seance" which was televised in May, so more than 6 months before "Messiah" .
I know they have to plan things in advance but don't think it is specifically connected to anything to do with "Messiah".

I'm probably wrong, but as I've totally given up now, I don't really care.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or, you know what?

He was responsible for all the bullshit 'lives' of the various Derren Brown's, e.g. DB decided on the conversion to Christianity bit, Coops scripted the 'struck by lightning' bit) ...

I've got stuck on him having something to do with the scripts now ...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know...I'm still stuck on the 'something to do with Victoria Beckham' thing.

The Station, the weight problem, the affair, SBD's comments about my post - what's the explanation?

Belly-aching also means complaining, and she seems to do that a lot. But I still like the idea of Coops doing his job without any complaints, so 'No belly-acherie' is still my favourite...

I wish Sir Big Dave would get here and confirm or deny these last few pages, though!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just read the whole way through this thread and i think my head is about to explode Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Laura* wrote:
Quote:
Carbon in its purest form.


Just found this:

CharcoCaps, Activated Charcoal Dietary Supplement provides 260mg per capsule. Activated Charcoal USP has been produced to medical standards and is the purest form of carbon, the building-block element of the body, available today. Activated Charcoal has also been used for centuries as a natural remedy for intestinal distress. A natural internal detoxifier commonly used to help cleanse the body of unwanted materials. Imbalance of these toxins or other substances can lead to putrificaion and gas or excess flatus. CharcoCaps® Activated Charcoal can adsorb or bind-up great quantities of these substances and carry them out of the body.

Just a thought Think Smile


Activated Charcoal is also used for drug overdoses (especially heroin and paracetamol), poisonings and gas masks. Anyone else want to connect these to Nobacherie, because i'm stuck Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.. and water filters. If we are are talking about carbon in it's elemental form, why not do the same with the rest of the word Nobacherie...

N O Ba C He Re I

It's a mix of chemicals that Coops has to give Derren when back in the cave where they live (Nitrogen, Oxygen, Barium, Carbon, Helium, Rhenium)

The Nitrogen and Oxygen are obvious.. that's the air that Derren breathes (at night time he sleeps in an iron lung y'know.. it's true)

Barium can be used as a green colouring agent.. It was probably used for the Riddler suit and colouring Figaro's feathers.

Carbon is used in the electrodes that Coops fixes up to Derren's brain in thunderstorms for a bit of a recharge.

Helium can be heard occasionally when Derren burps and his voice goes a bit squeaky.. this also explains the head nod as each gas bubble escapes.

Rhenium is used in the production of lead-free, high-octane petrol, which is what Derren likes to drink when he can't get his hands on any fine malts.

You may be saying to yourselves, "What about the missing I?" Well, that is administered in the form of Iodine after all the other chemicals. One of the properties of Iodine is that it is "a pretty blue-violet gas with an irritating odour" which explains the ongoing "Derren smells of Parma Violets" rumours.

I'm sure you'll agree, it's far more likely than any other explanation!!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks ever so much Rexyp, how would we manage without your input? Wink Recap of recent clues:

Sir Big Dave wrote:
Coopie, my force is strong!!!

People are getting further and further away from the answer, clue number 2.............top of the london eye, looking over buck house, the answer is there, nowt' to do with the scouse.

If you guys dont get it from that, I despair!!!

Coops wrote:
Oi Dave, That's a bit of a give-away isn't it???

Sir Big Dave wrote:
yeah, but they have struggled too long, six bloody pages this thread, lets give them 5 clues each then its down to them

SBD CLUE 1 ..........."Fascinating"

Coops wrote:
Coopie Clue 1 : Nothing to do with knobs!

Sir Big Dave wrote:
SBD CLUE NUMBER 2..................."poor old concorde, he fly no more"

Coops wrote:
Coopie clue 2 : MacMillan in the accounts department would lose his job over it.

Sir Big Dave wrote:
SBD 3.........Peter Piper Picked A Peck Of Numskull Ninja's

Coops wrote:
Coopie clue 3 : Enrolment at a later stage would certainly mean an imminent sacrifice.

Sir Big Dave wrote:
SBD 4 Derren, Darren, Duran Duran, Scoops, Big Dean, wrong, wrong WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!

Next one will be the easiest

Coops wrote:
Coopie clue 4 : Carbon in its purest form.

Sir Big Dave wrote:
Here is the best clue so far

SBD 5..............fish ans chips are great especially if you hapen to be in
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.

Coops wrote:
Coopie clue 5 : A man's favourite foreign friend.

Sir Big Dave wrote:
Get away from the spelling thing or you will just confuse yourselves, gotta go now, work needs doing.
Peace and Love!!

Sir Big Dave wrote:
PS..........it is a clean and obvious answer.

Sir Big Dave wrote:
'Kay.

.SPASM, almost a genius. whilst reading your thread i felt sure the answer would be at the bottom.
EVERYONE READ THAT THREAD CLOSELY, YOU WILL NOT BELIVE HOW CLOSE SOME OF THE THINGS SAID ARE TO ACTUAL THINGS THAT WILL GIVE YOU QUITE SIMPLE AND OBVIOUS CLUES TO WHAT THE ACTUAL ANSWER IS...............er..... .YES!!

SBD
SpasmTheCat wrote:


".............top of the london eye, looking over buck house, the answer is there, nowt' to do with the scouse."
You can see Victoria station - nowt to do with Scouse 'cause Dave used to play for Man Utd, not Liverpool.

"poor old concorde, he fly no more"
...Explanation. End of story.

["MacMillan in the accounts department would lose his job over it."
Harold MacMillan resigned after the Profumo Affair. Affair. See?

The 'HUGE clue' refers to the words 'her station', i.e. Victoria. and the David Frost thing?

Sir Big Dave wrote:
- Greeane was probably one in a past life
- Malaga is not where you think it is


Yeah, and the Owls are Not What They Seem either. **




** NB another football reference - not bad huh! Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonder if Greeane could have been a mascot in a previous life? Think
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I am so confused. Brick wall (that emoticon must have been made for this thread!)
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New postPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really enjoying this thread . . . but, Spasm . . . I'm getting a little concerned about you . . . are you remembering to eat, sleep etc! Laughing
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